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A long kiss goodnight 6/22/2023 6:38 PM
"Minormancy" is one of the tulpa topics of all times
6:38 PM
I should not be proud of this little joke (edited)
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the age i recommend tulpamancy is as follows 16, but also, if you're immature/dumb, anywhere from 18 to never and if you're mature/smart, 14 the problem is that people are very bad at judging their intelligence a poll once found that 97% of university professors thought their teaching skills/standard was 'above average'
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I think 16 is a decent okayish age to start
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sh
the age i recommend tulpamancy is as follows 16, but also, if you're immature/dumb, anywhere from 18 to never and if you're mature/smart, 14 the problem is that people are very bad at judging their intelligence a poll once found that 97% of university professors thought their teaching skills/standard was 'above average'
឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/23/2023 6:55 PM
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah
Click to see attachment 🖼️
this is the real dunning-kruger curve, from the original study
8:04 PM
i recommend you save this as a file to use in the future
8:10 PM
they all think they're above average (50 on the left)
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sh
this is the real dunning-kruger curve, from the original study
A long kiss goodnight 6/23/2023 8:39 PM
Damn, you beat me to it
8:40 PM
I believed in the "mount stupid" graph until I saw that video
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/23/2023 10:05 PM
now we need a curve relating where we think wr are on the kruger curve and where we really are
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Kruger curve curve
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/23/2023 10:09 PM
kruger curve curve cuve
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sh
this is the real dunning-kruger curve, from the original study
឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/24/2023 4:40 AM
true
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I just use that one because it's easier to understand at a glance for most people xP (edited)
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/24/2023 4:45 AM
But it's also inaccurate, if it's supposed to replicate the dunning-kruger effect.
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/24/2023 4:46 AM
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Waaaay back in the day I had someone try to do a healing session with me over IRC. Guy told me to sit down and wait things out in DMs, so I sat on my bed and closed my eyes and waited and all that. They told me all sorts of stuff about me then were like "did you feel anything"
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I say "nope"
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And they say "well, shoot, you should have"
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/26/2023 12:24 AM
😭
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Reguile
And they say "well, shoot, you should have"
God I love this so much
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Continuing from #general-chat I understand why you might. It’s not a very precise term but it does describe something
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Milk
Continuing from #general-chat I understand why you might. It’s not a very precise term but it does describe something
what?
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Sete
what?
I meant I understand why you hate the term soul. My point is that even though it’s a vague term it does clarify meaning. Soul is distinct from psyche or consciousness in its connotation
12:41 AM
It’s also probably vague because it means a lot of different things specifically across cultures.
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 12:42 AM
Okay so Metaphysics question
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Well hate is probably a strong word I just don't think it has any real use for me personally since I consider my self to be my psyche or consciousness rather than some vague idea of a "soul" I actually just put it as a spiritual version of the subconscious in that regard. Something that isn't you which holds you but in a spiritual sense. Which I know just like how physicalists disagree that the body isn't you some spiritual people will probably disagree with my interpertation that the soul isn't you
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 12:42 AM
What is spirit keeping
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I guess the annoyance is more how it's so often framed that you are your soul which is a stance I would oppose much like you are your body. But eh
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berockly (TTG)
What is spirit keeping
Were you here for like my four hour break down where I kept going down the spirit keeping rabbit hole
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Sete
I guess the annoyance is more how it's so often framed that you are your soul which is a stance I would oppose much like you are your body. But eh
That’s fair, I think! I’ve never thought of that. I would say I am much more my soul and psyche than I am my body. But I’m sure many people feel differently
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Milk
Were you here for like my four hour break down where I kept going down the spirit keeping rabbit hole
berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:04 AM
No
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berockly (TTG)
No
Okay well basically it’s this community where people “purchase spirits” and then they like. Either do spiritual workings with them, keep them as like sort of an odd pet, or it’s more of a tulpa type situation
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:06 AM
I see ANd spirit classes are like the grade of the spirit?
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Yes exactly
1:09 AM
It seems entirely arbitrary
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we tried talking to some occultists about the ethics of summoning/enslaving/banishing spirits/demons etc as well but didn't find any takers on that either xd
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:11 AM
So like How do you keep a pet spirit
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This sounds like a joke but I'm kind of serious. Keep a regular pet - it has a spirit.
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:13 AM
But those are high maintenance and not cool
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One of our pet peeves is occultists seeming disregard for ethics assuming what they are doing is real(which they do believe after all)
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:13 AM
(Cats dont have souls)
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You can't look at a happy dog when you come home and tell me that's not worth it.
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They're just so happy to see you every day!
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:13 AM
Thats true
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But cats arent
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Cats are happy you serve them
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Silina
One of our pet peeves is occultists seeming disregard for ethics assuming what they are doing is real(which they do believe after all)
This is one of my favorite aspects of how these guys do things, it's just so weird and unexpected and off the wall. Alien to the tulpa community.
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:14 AM
Because they are demons
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And alien is cool. Weird, possibly self destructive, possibly mired in falsehoods, but interesting to see them try.
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Silina
One of our pet peeves is occultists seeming disregard for ethics assuming what they are doing is real(which they do believe after all)
berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:14 AM
Like forcibly summoning/binding spirits?
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They have a deep parinoia regarding control and tell you to do stuff like constantly double check and create weapons against your tulpa and stuff like that.
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As if they could go rouge and take over your life or harm you spiritually. (edited)
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Like forcibly summoning/binding spirits?
@berockly (TTG) - jump Yeah, stuff like that
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:15 AM
I personally think all this spiritual stuff is cool if real
1:16 AM
Sadly though, the world isnt that yk
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Cool
1:16 AM
Bland world we have here
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They have a deep parinoia regarding control and tell you to do stuff like constantly double check and create weapons against your tulpa and stuff like that.
@Reguile - jump Oh for sure. They are constantly horrified that we would just let go of control for tulpas as well and even gasp encourage their independence. Real culture clash there
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Lynn (TTG) BOT 6/26/2023 1:19 AM
reign of the tulpas?
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!!
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Well not everyone but yeah. There are lots of reasons more meta people don't get along here
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I honestly thing a big fraction of that is the occult side has a lot of undiagnosed mental illness and from their perspective the "out of control actors" are a much larger threat so that exists as a coping mechanism? Or maybe it's a technique to appeal to "seriousness" like - if you talk about this big threat of how the tulpa will be too independent, it leads to a person having a much less prone to be questioned belief in "normal" non-rouge independence. Like "Of course my tulpa is independent, I have to fight to keep them in check!"
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I think they are so stuck in arguing what they are doing is real they never consider the actual implications of it being supposedly real.
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Lynn (TTG) BOT 6/26/2023 1:22 AM
we should take over ngl
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:23 AM
Like the infinite riches spells and obvious inflation stuff?
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Or are we talking about serious people, not scammers
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Nelly (TTG) BOT 6/26/2023 1:24 AM
And anywho, who sells a riches spell for dirt fucking cheap
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we should take over ngl
@Lynn (TTG) - jump no way, we have already dealt with 1 tulpa having a god-superiority complex today and have now sworn of the path of domination
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That happens like every other week
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also actual god-superiority complex look really annoying to deal with(I was not joking about the god-complex tulpa unfortunately)
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Lynn (TTG) BOT 6/26/2023 1:25 AM
oh, like there are tulpas who seriously think that?
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They show up with eyeliner and sad music sung by a guy with a black shirt and spikey hair talking about how life is suffering and how they control their hosts day to day life to keep them safe from the evil world and their host worships them as a god.
1:26 AM
They they stop posting after a few months when they get bored
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:26 AM
That post title
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Yeah...
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:27 AM
Man, tulpamancy is made out to sound a lot more special than it is
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Im even guilty of it
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I don't think I have seen a tulpa with such a superiority complex before tbh. Feels surreal in a way
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:28 AM
Like as if it was trolling?
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Like that's how bad it was?
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idk. Like we are created mental beings and like I joke that we are superior and all at times and in some instances even believe it but idk feels weird to think you are a God and stuff haven't seen a tulpa like that before
1:34 AM
But I guess if other people can have delusional superiority complexes so can tulpas XD so makes sense in a way that cases like this can occur
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I just took a shower and came back to this with no context 😖
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I just took a shower and came back to this with no context 😖
@Milk - jump Lol, well it doesn't get that much better with context so eh
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god complex tulpa??
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Yup, an actual real one as well(probably) I was kinda shocked that can actually be a thing
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I shouldn’t laugh but I’m laughing a little
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berockly (TTG) 6/26/2023 1:48 AM
I think spirits being real would be cool
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berockly (TTG)
I think spirits being real would be cool
You don’t believe in them?
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One theory/interpretation I am working on atm is considering the base physical laws of the universe as rules-based magic. I started dividing up and categorizing various hypothetical magical system but then realized that the physical laws of the universe would fall under my rules-based magic system XD
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 6/26/2023 1:57 AM
woah I just redefined my view of magic after reading that I think
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In a world where magic is real you would no longer consider it magic 😛
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 6/26/2023 1:58 AM
yeah So, aren’t the forces of the universe, from another viewpoint, magic? Gravity, the way matter and light and such behaves, etc.
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Yeah there’s a lot of things about the universe we don’t understand. Magic feels like an applicable term in the mean time.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 6/26/2023 2:00 AM
yeah
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Well it might go deeper than that since we are exploring things at a quantum level but like general relativity? The speed of light in vacuum? Probably like some of these things are like arbitrary rules imposed on the universe. What is that if not magic?
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